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cranachan
#1 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:12:07 PM Quote
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I have been told this week that I am at risk of redundancy. As it affects an entire department there is no issue regarding discrimination.

However, I could do with some advice going forward. There will be a period of consultation looking at re-deployment and only when this is exhausted will redundancy kick in. What rights do I have to be considered for other positions fairly? I have 21 years service and work 3 days/week (agreed over a year ago) at Director level.

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Andrew
lizziemouse
#2 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:55:31 PM Quote
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Hi Andrew,
I'm no expert but thought this might be helpful Smile ~ Liz

http://www.direct.gov.uk...Job/Redundancy/index.htm
Kathleen_C
#3 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:56:33 PM Quote
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Hello Andrew,

Welcome to the forum! I`m sorry that I can`t help with your query, but I`m sure someone who can will reply and be able to give you some advice. They are a great bunch of people on the forum, who will help when they can.

I`m Kathleen, 60 this year, so already "early-retired" from teaching. We live in Durham.

Keep posting,

Kathleen x

PS Did you take your user-name from the Scottish dessert? We love to have when we go to Scotland.

Damned76
#4 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:06:38 PM Quote
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Hi Andrew- welcome to the forum. Don;t have any advice but please let us know how you get on. We are in exactly the same situation. We have all just had to make a competency based application for our own jobs - cutting 20% across our department (civil service). Got the application in this week. If we are at the bottom of the table after this we go into a redeployment pool. It doesn't look like there are any jobs to redeploy us to. What do you do? Is it public service sector?

Julie
cranachan
#5 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 4:06:16 PM Quote
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Private sector but dependent on public expenditure. The tap has been turned off and looks likely to remain turned off for sometime.
Damned76
#6 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 7:05:15 PM Quote
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I never considered the knock on effects of the public spending cuts. Are there any other posts in the company at your level? I would imagine this will limit your options.

Julie
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#7 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 7:12:47 PM Quote
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Andrew, the Benefits & Work website have loads of info. Members can use their forum and ask questions from a solicitor.

http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/index.php


Good luck
Carol
cranachan
#8 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 12:16:01 PM Quote
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Julie - yes the effects of public spending cuts on the private sector have not received quite the attention that the cuts themselves had. I used to work in Local Government over 20 years ago now so can sympathise with your position.

In my respect I think I am likely to be in the position that there is no reasonable likelihood that I will find alternative employment, but can I use this? I do not meet the immediate criteria for ill-health retirement as I have not been off long term sick and no medico is going to sign me off as unfit for work. Nor have I been singled out. The only route I can see to explore is that my employer is possibly going to make me redundant when my health means no reasonable prospect of finding alternative employment. If so can I seek ill health retirement on this basis?
jeanb
#9 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:00:26 PM Quote
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Hi andrew

Why not ask NRAS to put you in touch with our volunteer member, Bob Campbell. Before he retired on ill healh grounds, Bob was a disability rights law expert and I know he would be more than happy to support you.

Love Jeanxx
JulieM
#10 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:46:31 PM Quote
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good idea Jean-I was going to suggest Bob too.
YES I'VE CHANGED, PAIN DOES THAT TO PEOPLE.
Alice_S
#11 Posted : Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:47:57 PM Quote
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I am so sorry to hear of so many people in this forum at risk of losing their job. My Trust has announced job cuts for doctors. Having a string of short term sickness leave absences is not going to help me. The question for me is whether to consider ill health retirement. I love my clinical work but the stress of dealing with management is possibly making my RA worse. Impossible to tell because I have not previously thought that stress affected it. My dilemma is: do I take more potentially toxic treatment like steroid injections to deal with a flare-up when most of the flare-up affects my writing (of management documents, clinical guidelines, etc). If I didn´t work, I wouldn´t be so bothered about not being able to write more than a dozen sentences. In other words, how much am I prepared to risk my own health to stay at work?
lizziemouse
#12 Posted : Friday, July 30, 2010 8:35:47 AM Quote
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Hi Andrew, Alice, all... xx

Just some advice from me but I'm no expert, just recent experiences......

Talk to your management.

Put any concerns into writing and keep copies of everything.

Get any legal advice from a disability employment specialist

I have found DIAL helpful but most especially the Equality and Human Rights Commission & NRAS are great for pointing you in the right direction.

I gave my employers NRAS info books THREE times! They said they read them.... hmmmm.....?
The aim was to improve their awareness and understanding Confused about RA, associated fatigue and employers responsibilities etc. I also found out about Access to Work last year... when i was supporting one of my employees - i was a manager and subsequently shared this with my employer on my behalf....

There are lots of links on NRAS website & this is a helpful link-

http://www.nras.org.uk/h...x?id=a0B80000005CJTZEA4

I'm not really sure but i have a feeling that ill health retirements are going to become more difficult with rapidly changing politics so would strongly advise anyone needing information to seek professional advice & some of this is free and easily accessible online.
EHRC website is full of information and support www.equalityhumanrights.com. You can send email queries and they reply within about a week i think it was.
Well worth finding out your rights fully before the need arises.... hmmmm.... now why didnt i do that for me.... ;)

I am certain negative stress is a definite factor with RA. Recent weeks have proven this for me beyond reasonable doubt and i think HOW the stress makes you feel is paramount.
If you feel you are in charge and can resolve things then managing challenges can be possible. Put a more negative spin on a situation and i think the body finds it much harder to cope.....

Alice i think you may understand this more with your medical background? You enjoy sport which some people might not, i enjoy challenging situations at work (working with people with autism / communication barriers - challenges arise all the time but i have proven strong ability in this area and get a buzz resolving and supporting people this way....)
On the other hand, throw in a sprinkling of reduced resources, reconfigurations, structural changes throughout the organisation, line management issues / lack of understanding of RA etc and things can go downhill very quickly....

From personal experience, I would advise before things may get difficult - really think about what works for you to de-stress regularly and take extra special care of yourselves when any situations that might make you feel powerless arise. & dont forget Carol has also put good link already - re: work and benefits

Andrew sorry for rabbiting on... Blushing hi jacking your post hope you don't mind ~ Liz x
Alice_S
#13 Posted : Saturday, July 31, 2010 9:20:52 AM Quote
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Thank you, Lizzie. That's really helpful. I didn't know about all those links and, you are right, it's worth looking them up well before I make any decisions. I can't decide whether work stresses me or not. It's a bit like I can't decide whether to feel stressed about the fitness link or not. Part of me thrives on challenges, which is why I enjoy my clinical work, and taking responsibility for myself and working with others under pressure, and why I used to enjoy skiing too. Living near the edge... and now, near the edge of redundancyBigGrin
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